Hi! Its Parris from EpicReviews the tech website, and I just got a brand new dishwasher I wanted to tell you about. The reason it’s a technology device is dishwashers as of January this year had to meet new efficiency standards, and it means less water and less energy, less electricity, less heat. So the challenge is, getting the dishes clean with this limited amount of water and only a limited amount of electricity to work with.
If you happen to be looking for a dishwasher, ours went out a little while ago, that’s why I have a new one here, not just for fun purposes. If you look on consumer reports, they really highly rate the Bosch brand which is what this is, this is a Bosch, and if you look at the user reviews, terrible, there’s lots of people saying these are terrible dishwashers, what’s going on?
So, I had to search further on other websites to try to get an idea and I found that a lot of the dissatisfaction comes from 2 things: one, this take a long time to wash, it’s a very long cycle. I think it’s an hour and a half. So it’s a lot longer than people are used to and they’re used to, “Oh, I will get 2 loads done before I go to bed tonight.
And man, they’re up until 2 in the morning because they didn’t anticipate how long it was going to take.
But that’s a function of needing to wash the dishes with a limited amount of water and a limited amount of electricity. What you need more of is time, time for the food to dissolve so you can wash it off with less resources. So that’s part of the reason for the longer wash times.
The other complaint a lot of people have is that, they don’t dry.
That they open it up and well, the technician who installed this just did a test cycle but that the water, you know, you get on the top of your cups and the deep surface, you get the water and so forth. That’s how the dishes come out no matter what they do, and that’s another function of not having a heating element that just roast those dishes and pours that steam out like you probably are used to seeing if you have an older dishwasher.
So, what you have to do to counteract that is be a little more accepting of the dishes being damp, I think. But in the instruction manual, they mention because this must have been an issue, so they knew to have a special FAQ about it. It says, “Four up to 45% drier dishes, you have to use the rinse aid.
Which I’ve tried it before and I didn’t see there was much difference but it does cause the water to bead up smaller.
Like if you’ve ever been in a commercial carwash and you get that spot-free rinse, it takes the minerals out and it makes the water bead up tiny, tiny small so when it dries up, you don’t get the spots, and the other thing that they recommend is you use the sanitize cycle. Well, I think that’s fudging a little because the energy ratings for this are with a normal load, so if you’re always using sanitize just to dry the dishes, you’re actually will be using more electricity but it will help to solve your issue if you really like to have those bone- china dry dishes.
So I have not used this yet and I will confess that for the past few days knowing the dishwasher was coming, I didn’t want to keep washing al the dishes by hand so I have quite an assortment here, and I’m going to load it up. This looks to have a slightly smaller capacity than our previous dishwasher, we must have bought that in around 2004 I think, and it was a pretty inexpensive Kenmore model, we spent more on this one. Looks like it got a little smaller capacity.
Anyway, maybe it’s more efficient in the way they put the times and so forth so I’m going to load it up with our dishes, a number of which has been sitting for several days so they should be a good test to see if it really can get it clean. Man, it really is wet in there, though. I just want to mention that they give you the manual, it looks fairly extensive but yeah, it’s all other languages, it’s only a half to a third of that is going be of use to you.
The Energy Star guide wanted to mention that the 2012 standards mean that the dishwasher has to use less than 295 kilowatts in an entire year if it’s used as an average person would use it which I would guess is about once a day on a normal load setting. So, this one comes in at 259, 295 is the limit to get Energy Star certified, and they’re estimating it $27 a year if you have electric heat and $21 year if you have a gas heater.
Also, the requirements were that it use 4.25 gallons or less per cycle, that’s really not much water. Our old dishwasher when it broke, I could still-I could pump the stuff out of there, they all got stuck in that thing in the bottom.
Anyway, I was able to pump it all out, that was a lot of water and so you could see that with-I don’t know, I’m guessing it’s 1 to 1 1/2 gallons less probably in this washer to try to get all that food cleaned with, you know, all the dirt that’s floating in there, they got to really work it well. So, we’ll see how well they did figure that out.
Dishwashers use 2.5% of your total home energy so if you get one that’s slightly more efficient, it’s not going to make a big difference on your electric bill, and dishwashers on average are supposed to last 11 years. Our last one lasted about 8 years, something burned out and weird stuff happened and like so many appliances these days, it’s cheaper to buy a new one than to see about getting it repaired.
So hopefully, this one will last 11 because we did pay a little more for this and it is a good brand. Anyway, let me load it up, they gave me their recommended brand of finish, we use these anyway these little tablety things with the little ball that’s supposed to, I think be a rinse aid.
So we’ll see, I don’t have any rinse aid to put in it so this will be a good test to see if you just use this type of detergent and you drop it in the thing, let it run the normal cycle and see what the look like. So I’m going to load it up, I’ll explain you what it looks like loaded with dishes, and I’ll let it wash, tell you how long it took and then we’ll see how they look when they come out.
Alright, I’ve loaded the top rack here and I have to say it doesn’t hold-I don’t think it holds nearly as much as the top rack in our previous dishwasher. Of course I got so many to wash now, maybe I’m a little biased. Part of the issue is there’s no space to slide things back here along the outside edges.
I always use that to put in things like this, I could get several spatulas and big spoons along the edges.
I don’t have that space to work with now, and back here, there used to be a flat tray with a very small mesh for things like wooden spoons. I could put them in there, I didn’t have to worry about them falling down, you know, and blocking the spray arms and so forth. So that’s kind of an issue with the top rack, let me do the bottom rack and see what I think.
Well, as somewhat disappointed I was with the top rack and the-I couldn’t get quite as many dishes as I could in the old dishwasher, I am doubly impressed with the bottom rack. This has got to be probably close to twice the number of dishes I could get into the old dishwasher on the bottom. This one, the spacing is so close and they’ve got that angle so you can just pack them in there.
Of course, our dishes don’t all match up, we have different sets which complicates things a little but still, this is so many more dishes that I could wash in one load with our old dishwasher. Remains to be seen with them spaced so closely together, if they’re actually going to get cleaned. Room for plenty of silverware, lot more silverware.
The issue is, all of this weird shaped stuff, where does it go?
I think it’s going to have to go on the top but then I’m not going to be able to do many cups. Anyhow, I’ll try to sort that out with the next load, I think. Alright, I got my little soapy deal here, I guess properly called detergent, that must he the rinse aid.
Yep, so I drop it in here and this says, “To close, slide and push down.
Okay, well there it goes, that wasn’t so hard after all. I don’t have the rinse aid again, so I’m going to see how it turns on a normal load with just the regular detergent. Here we are at the top, this of course is the latest style with all the buttons at the top, I think it’s kind of a pain because how can you see what’s going on but anyway, this is what we got and that was-those about lights are left over after the last guy, I mean the installer did it.
So I guess, I’ll turn it off so all the lights are off, turn it on, by default, it wants to do auto so I guess I’ll let it do auto rather than normal. It knows better than me how dirty they are, well I know they are pretty dirty. I’m not going to do sanitize and close it up and I assume it will start right up.
Okay, yeah I hear watery sounds and you notice down here, this is kind of cool since it has the -the dirt there isn’t cool- since it has the buttons on the top, they’re recessed hidden buttons, how do you know if it’s on? Well, probably you can hear it, it’s pretty quiet but anyway, they give you a light on the ground so you know it’s running. I don’t know if that light changes to green when it’s clean, I think that would be cool but I don’t know if that’s going to happen, pretty quiet.
Anyway, if it gets loud, I’ll let you know, otherwise, I’ll see how long it takes. I’ll start a timer and when it’s done, well see how they look. Alright, well the dishwasher finished, the red light has disappeared from below it, and it made a beeping noise – several beeps at the end – to let you know that it’s done.
This was a while back, I actually wasn’t here, this is later at night, and my wife said though it took it seemed over 2 hours for it to do the whole load.
I don’t know if that’s usual, I chose auto not normal, so I guess it keeps going until it thinks this stuff is clean. So we still got lights on, it say, “Clean” and “Refill rinse aid” and “Auto. You’re supposed to turn it off so there we go, #[10:04].
It’s warm inside, it’s wet like, I mean even on the very edge of the door so I know these dishes are not going to be completely dry. Well, actually it feels clean, it feels warm and clean. That’s still got some kind of-I don’t remember what was in that one caked in there. Let’s look at another one here.
Yeah, clean, that one’s clean, definitely.
A little bit of water, a little bit of water, no. Yeah, a little bit of water there. Well, how did the ones that are really packed in there do? Looks okay.
Feels dry and warm, so I’m actually kind of impressed that it actually did have within its electrical budget, it did have enough heat to warm things up.
Silverware, it’s looking good, no chunks of food still left in the forks. Everything seems pretty clean, pretty dry. Well, I’m pleased, I will go in and do the filter and explain you about cleaning out the filter that has to be done manually on this Bosch’s unlike the American dishwashers that have a built-in garbage disposal to do it for you, and I’ll unload the dishwasher tomorrow morning and see if they really are all clean. If they are, I really will be impressed.
I’ve loaded up the dishwasher for a second load with some of those troublesome, odd- shaped items, and I’ll see how this works but I have to say I was very pleased with after I unloaded the other dishes, they were clean other than 1 glass that I think some filmy stuff had really gotten stuck on inside of it. Everything else came out very clean, the glasses really-you could see all the little scrapes and defects in them but I had no issues with it being dirty, had no issues with them still being wet.
Now, the last thing I want to explain here is with the Bosch, they don’t include the mini garbage disposal that American dishwashers have where they grind up whatever food has washed off of the dishes during the course of washing and send it over to the garbage disposal, instead, they have a filter and you need to clean this out yourself. So, it comes out pretty easily, you just turn this and lift it straight out and that’s what it is, it’s a metal mesh and you rinse it in the water and it washes out.
I don’t even it accumulated everything this time so I don’t think there’s any need to do it every time. Maybe once a week, I don’t know, I have to read the manual on that and see but it’s very easy, it fits right in there and it filters out any big good chunks, you line up the arrow. Alright, so I drop it in place there, push it so it’s right into the groove, turn it so the arrow lines up and it’s in there solid and that’s it.
I mean, how many seconds does that take to take out and rinse when it accumulates some food. So not a big hardship, my wife wasn’t really in favor of getting it, she wanted the automatic one but it didn’t make sense to have a second garbage disposal just for your dishwasher trailings as it were when all you have to do is rinse out the filter and do your regular dishwasher.
That’s part of what makes this dishwasher so much quieter is that you don’t have that phase where it turns into a garbage disposal and has to do that grind, grind, grind. That’s why they advertise up here about the silence, SilencePlus 48 decibels, and it really was quiet and I’m pleased with it. I’m pleased with the purchase and I’ll do a follow-up review after a few months and see how it holds up, see how the dishes are doing.
But even with just the recommended little detergent pack with the little ball in it rather than using the separate rinse aid formula, I think it worked very well. So I’d give it out of 10 stars, I’d give it an 8 right now.